[all克] Am I playing a strategy game or a strategic reasoning game?

05:58, 5 July 2025

【all克】我玩的究竟是攻略游戏还是策略推理游戏？

https://langdaoshijuan69972.lofter.com/post/318ad1ba_1c99f2878

Notes：

Set "Fool's Origin" as a first-person RPG game, with Xiao Ke as the character

This is a mental explosion product under the exam month and a lot of DDL. I wrote this picture for fun.

This is my first time writing a forum post, so please point out any mistakes.

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【Anonymous version】

[Seeking advice] Am I playing a strategy game or a strategic reasoning game? ? ?

1L OP

　　RT, the derivative strategy game "Fool's Origin" of the shocking 3A masterpiece "Secret World", played to the point of doubting life. I clearly wanted Klein to capture Miss Justice, but until now he is still looking for dogs on the street to catch mistresses as a private detective, tortured by all kinds of logical reasoning and intelligence analysis. I have known each other for a long time, and I miss her so much, but I have never met her. Justice——

　　What, isn't it a secret DLC?

　　2l wake up, don't ignore the essence of The Fool just because of the astonishing amount of information and text. Although I also ran to sort out clues and timelines while playing...

　　Logically speaking, hasn't he seen him every time when the OP holds a Tarot Club? [Funny] After all, he is the Lord of Mysteries, the King of Time and Space, the Beacon of Destiny, the Incarnation of Sefirah Castle, and the Ruler of the Spirit World—Klein!

　　I think it would be more appropriate to call him the Master of the Bathroom or the King of Traitors. I was thinking that since I was always getting beaten up and losing sanity in the Mystery, I would try the feeling of being in the Origin from a God's perspective. I was wrong, is it really the Origin? It is still a mysterious organization with a lot of pretense in the Mystery timeline. God knows how devastated I was when I saw that there were only a few coins in my pocket. It is indeed the God of Poverty.

　　It is too close to my actual situation, so I give it a bad review.

　　Hello, I'm off topic. I think the OP has reached the chapter of the Faceless Man. If you want to conquer Justice, I suggest you ask Klein to talk more about people's livelihood in the Tarot Club. Although the favorability will be added to the Fool's vest before the new vest Hermann, 10% will be converted into the personal data [it's a hidden setting]. Someone calculated it before and it was officially certified. But the OP is right about the strategic reasoning game. When I played the first chapter, I was always using pen and paper to record and analyze clues and character relationships. Squid Studios is doing quite well in this regard. I thought Origin was a scam game.

8L OP

　　Thanks 7L, praise good people!

　　Which game doesn't cheat money? Although I really want to say that the planning is wise and the art is awesome, I have to admit that the stupid planning of Fool is really good. I really admire the emotional outburst between the captain and Old Neil, "We are guardians, and we are also pitiful."

10L

　　Stop the knife, stop the knife, the child will be stupid. After finishing the first chapter, I shut myself up for a whole day. Other games trick players into coming in and kill them, but this one kills you right from the start! Whose male protagonist died before changing the map!

11L

　　Squid's 23333

12L

　　666 has this kind of hidden setting, 7L is amazing, it is true that there are many secretive masters. However, the Fool is a vest, Sherlock is a vest, Hermann is a vest... Question, what is not a vest?

13L

　　...Klein?

14L

　　Zhou Mingrui Bar

15L

　　When I am used to playing a person, am I myself or that person?

16L

　　Why don't you ask the magical conch?

17L

　　The question is too philosophical.

18L

　　I remember someone had a debate about this, which was amazing. It was really cool and cool.

19L

　　Tsk tsk tsk, your zone is really idle. But speaking of it, has anyone gotten a happy ending, no matter who they are attacking?

20L

　　What strategy is there? Isn't it beautiful for a fool to be alone?

　　Well, I was disappointed, but I didn't finish the fight. I died in the first chapter before I even started.

21L

　　Tell your story upstairs.

　　Although I didn't get it right, I was attracted by Xingxing's beauty, and ended up with [Repeating History]. Although the CG was so beautiful that it made me cry, it couldn't hide the fact that it was be... nmd, why, why would Xingxing backstab Xiao Ke [her little eyes were filled with big confusion.jpg].

22L

　　Did you not raise the favorability of Len to Friendly? If you don't raise it to Friendly, there is a high probability that the [God's Container] branch will be triggered in the God Forsaken Land, and if Pallez's favorability towards the Fool is also not high... that will be your ending. But to be honest, that CG is really beautiful, Leonard stabbed the Fool with a knife, golden blood dripped on the floor, emerald eyes were baptized by tears and anger, desperate despair and resentment, tsk tsk tsk, it's really delicious.

　　But in a sense, it can be considered a happy ending. After all, it was revenge for Klein, which means they got married if you round it off.

23L

　　God damn, there are so many things to complain about that I don't know where to start... Wait, so both men and women can be conquered [pupil tremor.jpg], so LGBT?

24L

　　Is your village newly connected to the internet? Isn't one of the selling points of Origin the rich and varied side stories? There are only characters you can't imagine, but there is nothing it doesn't have.

25L

　　I remember someone went to raid Arodes 23333

26L OP

　　who?

27L

　　Do you have a lot of little friends? Yes, it is the dog-licking mirror, although I always thought it should be the mirror that increases Xiao Ke's favorability.

28L

　　That makes sense. I have to admit that Arrodes' licking skills are better than mine. I am not so dedicated to my boss.

　　I lost.

29L

　　I learned a lot about the art of speaking from it.

30L

　　It was the previous post. I remember that the poster typed out the ending of [Unreachable Love]. He was a talented person who could type out be. Most people typed out te [Within Reach], sleeping with the Fool or something like that, which was probably the ultimate dream of a dog.

31L

　　Hahaha, I remember that post. Although the poster was miserable, the post was filled with a happy atmosphere 233333.

　　Why would a BE cg be an emoticon? So red and hot, so dazed

32L

　　It's so tragic. It's really so tragic.

33L

　　Hahahaha, I got Mirror's [It's Here, It's Here] he ending, and the moment I saw the cg, I burst into laughter. Arrodes is really a mudslide in the mysterious world.

　　Let me show you [picture.jpg]

34L

　　Is the name quite symmetrical with the ending of be? Emmm... the painting style is also quite consistent.

35L

　　Damn, hahahahahaha, this is intentional, definitely intentional, does the official look down on us Arrodes fans [funny], what the hell is this sand sculpture that reveals a hint of shyness, the whole mirror is red, it's a fake and shoddy product, bad review 233333

36L

　　You can even show facial expressions in the mirror, what is this?

37L

　　This building is tilting too fast.

38L

　　You all have practiced your hand speed for years. I'm 19L, and I thought it would be gentle to the players at the beginning. Simple, isn't it better to be simple [tears flowed down]. Although the daily life of the three brothers and sisters is really warm and happy, but, if you reply wrong once, you will be suspected, and if you make the mistake three times, you will be considered to be possessed by evil spirits and dragged to the church to be destroyed. It's too difficult! This feeling of step by step, I believe it's the mysterious version of House of Cards! Is Klein really a keyboard warrior?

　　I'm sorry, I don't deserve it and I brought shame to the keyboard warriors.

39L

　　Which keyboard warrior can understand psychology so clearly... But I remember it was pretty easy there. You can look through the old text records for some memories of the original owner. There are hints in them. If that doesn't work, SL is great.

40L

　　It's no use. I've passed all those questions, but it still doesn't work orz

41L

　　I think I guessed that you chose some of the branch choices above that would benefit Klein to a certain extent but might hurt his family. For example, in the case of [Hero Disqualified], when chasing the fugitive, there was a route that forced the suspect to choose. Did you choose the one that passed by Melissa's school?

42L

　　I, I don't know, I remember I chose the one that saved the most effort. [呆慢.jpg]

43L

　　That's right, the best option is to force your way to the church, where there are basically no people or large buildings. Although you will get hurt and lose some money, there will be no casualties. Melissa's route may seem to save effort, but if you are unlucky, school staff will get hurt. And as long as you choose this option, the hidden data in the background will deduct the potential trust and friendship value accordingly.

　　After all, according to the setting, the Fool was just an ordinary person who had just traveled through time, and he had the compassion and kindness that normal people have, or even more. And after accepting most of Klein's memories, he regarded Melissa as a real family member.

　　The same is true for some other similar options.

44L

　　Well, there are so many people on that road! I didn't look at the map at that time, and I really didn't consider it. And I didn't let Klein go to rescue my sister's classmate when she was possessed by evil spirits...

45L

　　...No wonder you are cold.

46L

　　QAq

47L

　　21L's answer reminded me of something I've always wanted to complain about, why do different vests have different favorability ratings? It's not me they love, it's the vest!!!

48L

　　Did you just mix beer with cefuroxime? Did you type out he? Then they say they love you.

49L

　　Don't tell me, I actually typed out something that looks better than he [Green Eyes Album] [Proud]

50L

　　Damn this name, it can't be what I thought, the above is too awesome. Is it true that he was not warned by the hatchet like Cheng Ge? ? ?

51L

　　Yes, it's just as you thought. I let Klein meet Lun Rabbit and Miss Justice~

　　Green-eyed beauties, I am so cute, you are all my wings. [Deeply affectionate]

　　Although it is a different vest,

52L OP

　　Is this what it means that those who are suffering from drought will die from drought, and those who are suffering from flood will die from flood?

　　I'm jealous

53L

　　I want to do it~

　　[A song of love that cannot be found in a lifetime is sent to you all.jpg]

54L

　　Give the upstairs a cup of sleepy black tea and drag him down XD

55L

　　This post contains too much nonsense.

　　I can't help but want to shout out with my rotten vocal cords: Shelley Bitch -

56L

　　In? Kill the white scholar!!!

57L

　　Is it possible for one person to face him?

58L

　　What? Someone actually pulled off a single-player HE that was said to be of epic difficulty? ? I look up to the masters. I've only seen my best friend pull off a personal HE [A New Beginning]. It sounds super healing, but the result was that everyone died and the universe restarted. Are you guys learning from Wei and C , assholes!

　　Damn screenwriter, my friend uninstalled Origin right after that ending came out.

　　But she came back because of the art work of Save the World.

59L

　　It's too real 23333. However, I have also seen the CG mentioned above. When I saw Xiao Ke floating in the starry sky with a peaceful smile on his face, I thought he was at least a NE?

60L host

　　I'm afraid he will die with a smile on his face...

61L

　　You guys are really fast, I'm 57L, to prove it, is this cg okay?

　　[picture.jpg][picture.jpg]

62L

　　! ! ! ! ! ! God, I finally saw the CG of this ending, it feels so warm! Is that tentacle Xiao Ke? So cute

63L

　　Wake up upstairs, Ning looked at these tentacles full of gram flavor and covered with patterns and said it again?

64L

　　But this image of the tentacle high-fiving the kid, uh, well, it has a weirdly heartwarming feel to it.

65L

　　Are the aesthetic tastes of friends aged 62 and 64 still alive?

　　It's beautiful, please let me shake the hand of the Fool.

66L

　　I have a feeling that this post will become hot because of this CG picture.

67L

　　Actually, I don't know if this can be considered a happy ending, but I think it's quite worth it after getting this ending.

68L

　　This line should be the real historical background of the mystery.

69L host

　　Can I ask what the ending of this line is called?

70L

　　[I have been dealing with myself for a long time, I would rather be myself]

---------------------tbc？--------------------

Intermission:

Will there be a follow-up? Maybe it won't be limited to forums, but I'd like to write the rational discussion post mentioned above, about the quarrels between forum bosses [rubbing hands], I've found some papers and books to study, and please slap me if there are any logical errors...

Welcome to communicate, chat and connect

[K Center/Forum] Rational discussion: What is the real "I" of Klein?

【克中心/论坛体】理性讨论，对于克莱恩何为真正的'我'？

https://langdaoshijuan69972.lofter.com/post/318ad1ba_1ca085eea

Notes:

The setting of "Fool's Origin" is a first-person RPG game, in which the player plays the role of Xiao Ke; "Lord of Mysteries" is a 3A game, and the timeline is after the completion of the original work.

Atypical forum, contains some philosophical discussions, i.e. more... academic? But there is a reason, I wonder if anyone can guess this setting hhh. Some philosophical terms will have corresponding explanations, very easy to understand

There will be hints at the end, but it is recommended to read the whole article first.

The views expressed in the forum do not represent my own views.

I would like to express my special thanks to Shuyun for not blocking me and giving me some great suggestions even though I was annoying her like a cicada for a month 23333

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【Real name version】

[Rational Discussion] For Klein, what is the real "me"?

1L OP

　　RT, although Origin is a strategy game, I think it can be regarded as a DLC for the Secret World. So I found a very interesting question: I have been browsing the forums these days and found that the names of the Fool are very diverse, Klein, Zhou Mingrui, the Fool...

　　So for the Fool, which identity is the real him?

　　He was mentioned in the third chapter of the Traveler as "a person who came from Earth, but was also reshaped to a certain extent by Klein Moretti's fragmented memories."

　　Later, when he was promoted to an angel, he said, "I am him, not He."

　　Just treat it as a starting point and wait for the big boss.

　　Believe me, this is a once in a lifetime request from me.

2L {it_must_be_nice}

　　Tsk tsk tsk, I have a bold idea @A life despised by the gods @Five equal parts nesting dolls

3L {Sleeping on straw and tasting gall}

　　Why did you tag these two together... Are you trying to bomb the forum?

4L {I love hanging bacon}

　　Let me complain first, a billion times in a lifetime is about right.

　　I think this question can be related to the Ship of Theseus paradox.

5L {Can someone teach me how to hit HE?}

　　Wait a minute, wait a minute, the Ship of Theseus has anything to do with Klein?

6L {I love hanging bacon}

　　Each replacement of a wooden board can be seen as Klein's cognition and worldview. When he has experienced enough, is he still the same Zhou Mingrui?

　　I don't think so.

7L {The people of Wuling make a living by fishing}

　　Every time I type this "?" it's not that I have a problem, it's that I think you have a problem :)

8L {Python is the origin of everything}

　　According to the data crawled by the crawler, 51.98% of people called him Klein, 22.65% called him Zhou Mingrui, 19.59% called him The Fool, and the other names were too few to list in detail. Of course, considering that people who play "Lord of Mysteries" in other areas may not have played "Origin of the Fool", I only crawled the posts in our area.

　　To sum up, it should be Klein.

9L {Aurora MLM}

　　Hey, hey, don't let us feel it, let the fools feel it themselves.

　　Before the origin came out, everyone always called him a fool, but in the end, he became a fool.

　　We thought the Tarot Club was a very cool organization, but it turns out to be just a crosstalk group, with more inner dramas than the other.

10L {Straight salty bait}

　　And the big boss of crawlers, you also have to consider the impact of official propaganda on people's thinking. The official has always called Zhou Mingrui Klein, and of course many people followed suit.

11L {Python is the origin of everything}

　　It's officially certified, so why isn't it Klein?

12L {Squid Blade Wholesaler}

　　So what? The announcement of the Pirates' rankings does not prevent everyone from continuing to argue.

　　And the official also wants to facilitate publicity. Should they write "Klein/The Fool/Zhou Mingrui" on the advertisement?

　　People who haven't played the game may think that the officials are not completely honest.

13L {Flying over Africa}

　　Do you find it interesting to consider these completely impossible things?

14L {Sit-ups in the coffin}

　　Einstein once said that it is helpful to consider impossible thought experiments.

　　To be honest, I just want to see some fights.

15L {Amon ptsd}

　　Einstein: I never said that!

16L {A Life Disdained by the Gods}

　　Why are you tagging me? I'm just making progress.

　　Yo, I saw someone mention the Ship of Theseus? [Element Perception.jpg] Since the OP asked me to, I won't hesitate. In the end, it's a question of identity. Come on, I'll teach you a lesson.　　

　　In terms of temporal identity, it's like the Ship of Theseus. After all the parts have been replaced, isn't it the same ship? We still call it Theseus. From an objective point of view, it has temporal continuity. So even if Zhou Mingrui accepted some of Klein's memories, he just put some goods on the ship or replaced some parts. Even if there are some changes in quality, they are the same in quantity.

　　He is Zhou Mingrui who accepted Klein's memory, OK?

17L {Five-part nesting dolls}

　　If you were to go with what you said, then Klein's statement that he accepted Zhou Mingrui's memory would also be valid.

　　Considering Klein as the Ship of Theseus, he then took on Zhou Mingrui's personality and all his memories, and he possessed Klein's body, and he also had physical continuity in time. Even from this point of view, this argument is more convincing than what you said.

18L {猹 in the melon field}

　　This probably means I should hit myself? Great!

19L {Leonard Azassi}

　　Wait! Wait! Who can tell me what quality and quantity are? What is the Ship of Theseus? Who can answer this question for my child?

20L {The Poor God with 50,000 Gold Pounds}

　　Help you tag boss 233333

　　@Happy ddl, @I really don't believe in God

　　You two, would you like to come and eat the melon?

21L {Happy ddl}

　　Eating melon seeds and watching a play

　　Thanks for providing the melon field.

　　As for quality and quantity, let me give you an analogy. I have two identical white balls. They are identical in quality, but not in quantity. Do you understand?

　　OK, let's continue. Next, we paint a ball black. It will stop being qualitatively identical to its past self, because it has changed from a white ball to a black ball, and its properties have changed. But this black-painted ball is quantitatively identical to the white ball that was not painted before. They are the same ball.

　　This is quality and quantity.

22L {I really don't believe in God}

　　Tsk tsk, I'm late, so let me briefly talk about the Ship of Theseus~

　　Theseus was a king who killed monsters to rescue the boys and girls who were offered as tribute. Or to put it another way, he forgot to change the black sails to white sails, which resulted in his father suffering from amnesia and committing suicide out of grief because he mistakenly thought he was dead. Then he also snatched the beautiful Helen as his wife.

　　Off topic, off topic, everyone has been maintaining the ship to commemorate the feat of killing the monster. After a long time, all the components of the ship have been replaced. Then someone who has nothing to do raises a philosophical question: Is the ship still the same ship after all the parts have been replaced?

　　Simply put, it is a question of identity.

23L {Violin Saigao}

　　Boring, why are there still people using physical continuity as an argument?

24L {Can I meet Miss Justice?}

　　Don't be brainwashed by novels about soul travel. Physical continuity is also a very important point of identity, okay?

　　I think it was Klein. He lived in this world with Klein's identity, had Klein's memories and relatives, and he also acknowledged Benson and Melissa as his relatives.

25L {Who owns Sefirah Castle today?}

　　Ah, the minors are confused, what are you talking about.jpg

　　So many posts have been debated just over this issue, and it even brought up philosophical issues [scratching my head], I don't understand it.

　　And have you forgotten Lord of Mysteries? Have you only played Origins? Anyway, I think no matter who they are, they are all fools. And in the mysterious timeline, I remember that if the san value is low enough, there is a certain probability of triggering the [Dream Realm]. There is a section of the fool's mumbling in it, isn't it a solid proof?

　　["I am... a fool who does not belong to this era. I am the beacon of destiny."]

　　In short, I support fools and only believe in fools!

26L {Sharon Xuan I}

　　I gradually lose track of the direction of this building...

　　What are you guys talking about?

27L {The True Lord of Mysteries}

　　Really interesting 🧐

28L {The unlucky person who only has one colored contact lens}

　　Don't go upstairs, my PTSD is coming out.

29L {Sleeping on straw and tasting gall}

　　Real brother, are you okay...Oh, I'm Amon too, then it's okay🧐

　　I also triggered the branch quest about Sefirah Castle, but that doesn't mean anything. Didn't Bishop Leonard later say that the Fool had a tendency to lose control during that period? His nonsense at that time doesn't mean anything.

30L {Who owns Sefirah Castle today?}

　　Huh? Isn't it true that what you say when you lose your mind is what you really say?

　　Are you lying to me?

31L {Violin Saigao}

　　Are there still people who believe in Baidu Encyclopedia these days?

32L {A Life Disdained by the Gods}

　　The one who said "I" was Klein, please, the plot clearly stated at the beginning that Zhou Mingrui traveled through time after Klein died, dead! After! After!, the physical continuity you mentioned does not hold true at all, okay? From the moment Klein died, he was already dead, and the one behind was just Zhou Mingrui who was wearing Klein's skin and had some of Klein's memories.

　　Tsk tsk, you are such an idiot. You don't even read the whole storyline and you just talk nonsense.

33L {makes a sound of liver exploding}

　　Didn't anyone trigger the [Nightmare Candle] quest? The Fool has already figured out his position there, right?

　　"...I have already recognized myself. I am Zhou Mingrui who has merged Klein's memory fragments and some of his emotions."

　　And when the goddess of night helped him recall the past, didn't he admit it? I thought it was a foregone conclusion that he was Zhou Mingrui?

34L OP

35L {I really don't believe in God}

36L {it_must_be_nice}

37L {makes a sound of liver exploding}

　　Then your san value is really high...

38L {Eastern culture is the strongest}

　　Klein's self-reflection at the Nightmare Candle clearly explained everything, so why are you still struggling?

　　And the third volume mentioned by the original poster is "a person who came from Earth, but was also reshaped to a certain extent by Klein Moretti's fragmented memories."

　　It's really interesting to see people arguing about such a simple matter. Are you trying to show off by bringing up philosophical questions?

39L {Sweet Iced Tea Wholesaler}

　　That was before he became a High Sequence, so don't use this as an example.

　　I'm used to calling him The Fool, and I personally feel that after he was promoted to an angel, he has slowly become like The Fool. Whether it's the way of thinking or the way of behavior, don't you think that The Fool has gone from a novice to a master of surgery? Especially in the Hanged Man chapter, when he arranged the back-up plan, it was obviously The Fool, and in the end he also fell asleep as The Fool.

40L {Five-part nesting dolls}

　　Oh, I'm a fool? I think you are the half-baked one who has not read many philosophy books and is wandering around.

　　I am refuting Zhou Mingrui's point of view. To be honest, I don't understand the meaning of your topic. What is more important than identity is connection. What constitutes the self is our connection with the world. What we cherish are the people and things we love, the various relationships between ourselves and others, our ambitions, achievements, commitments, emotions and memories, and other things. No matter who he appears in, whether it is Klein, Zhou Mingrui or the Fool, they are all part of the "I".

　　'I' is 'I'.

　　The issue you're arguing about is an empty one in the first place, just as idle as the otaku next door discussing combat power across multiple works.

41L {it_must_be_nice}

　　He suddenly became serious. Is Mr. Matryoshka angry?

42L {A Life Disdained by the Gods}

　　Awesome, Wow~【applause.jpg】

43L {it_must_be_nice} 　　

　　It is reasonable to suspect that the person above is being sarcastic.

44L {Master and Doctorate Program}

　　Shit, this otaku is offended.

　　What's wrong with discussing combat power across works? We are scientifically studying human potential!

45L {Five-part nesting dolls}

　　Sorry, it was just an analogy, I apologize if you were offended.

46L {Master and Doctorate Program}

　　Um, ok, it's okay.

47L {Three Body Saves the World}

　　Hey, I feel like you're quite reasonable, so why are you so angry with that person?

48L {Five-part nesting dolls}

　　Where is the rational person? Nonsense, he is not Kugimiya Megumi, why should I be happy if he scolds me?

49L {Xiangcai stopped smiling, it's all your fault no matter how you think about it}

　　Look, we found another uterine cancer.jpg　　

50L {The unlucky person who only has one colored contact lens}

　　Finally someone feels like me that the question you are discussing is a hollow one...

51L {Amon concentration is too high}

　　Can any kind-hearted person give me some scientific knowledge about what the void problem is?

52L {I really don't believe in God}

　　Today I am a ruthless machine~

　　An empty question is a definition of philosophy. We are not confused by this question because even if there is no answer to the question, we still know everything that happened. If this argument is true for a question, it is an empty question.

　　Thanks for the book list assigned by the teacher...

　　By the way, it turns out that Matryoshka is a supporter of relation R? It seems that he is also someone who has been abused by Parfit.

53L {Happy ddl}

　　Tsk, you beat me to it. Here's an analogy. A club exists for many years and then disbands. But some years later, some of the former members form an identical club with the same constitution. As for the question "Is this the same club? Or another completely similar club?", without legal provisions and member responses, these two claims are neither true nor false.

　　In addition, for empty questions, we are only considering its results or facts. Different answers to the questions are just descriptions of the results or facts from different angles.

　　Hey, I'm afraid we are reading the same book list. I just wanted to relax on the forum, but why did I suddenly start reviewing knowledge...

54L {Click me to see the fool}

　　You guys really have a lot of free time. Wouldn't it be better to use this time to advance the progress?

55L {Jia Jia misses her mother}

　　Who knows if this kind of thing will really happen? I come to the forum to chat after I have completed the progress.

　　This kind of post is rare.

　　By the way @I really don't believe in God, but since you mentioned it anyway, just talk about it. What is the relationship R?

56L {The unlucky person who only has one colored contact lens}

　　The definition of R relationship is: psychological connection or continuity with the right kind of reason. In fact, it is what the nesting doll expressed. All connections with the people around us, the connections with the world, our thoughts and behaviors, etc. Don't worry about the sudden outburst of faith.

57L {The witch tastes really good}

　　This kind of discussion only occurred because Fool's Origin was popular. Before Klein GG, it was good enough for this zone to have any daily active users.

58L {Who owns Sefirah Castle today?}

　　Hmm? What? What did I miss? Wasn't Fool Origin popular before? I'm so curious, can anyone tell me more about it?

59L {Little Moon Puppet}

　　Although the topic of this post is not this, it contains some popular science. [I just found out that TM mirrors can also form a couple, your game is really awesome]

　　y1s1, I am dying of laughter in this post, the poster of this post is really miserable, a straight man made such a CP. It is said that some people even drew fan art for him, I am afraid his face must be green 2333333

60L {Who owns Sefirah Castle today?}

　　Thank you senior!

61L {The True Lord of Mysteries}

　　Hehe, I think what Sweet Ice Tea said is also right. I also think that the fool is 'me'.

　　However, I am similar to Matryoshka, and I believe that the connection with the world is the most important. However, the difference between me and Matryoshka is that I think in the process of promotion, it is obvious that the Fool is slowly being assimilated by this era. Especially in the duel with Amon, he is completely a Fool, although he said that he was protecting the people he cherishes. But, words can be deceiving. Maybe he himself does not realize that he has become a Fool. From the perspective of his thinking that he saw through Amon's behavior and chose to fight to seize the uniqueness, his behavior is completely reasonable.

62L {Unlimited supply of Snake ice cream}

　　Hey, I'm asking you, have you ever played the game seriously? If you've completed any personal line, you won't think so. Klein's humanity is clearly always there. Even when he was on the verge of losing control, he didn't give up protecting the people and things he cherished.

　　Even if you haven't completed Origin, those who have played the game should know that you can see a lot of humanity in the conversations with the Outer Gods.

　　["This is my hometown"]

63L {The True Lord of Mysteries}

64L {I really don't believe in God}

　　Tsk, Meitong, I have a reasonable suspicion that you are implying something. I am not happy anymore, I want to play too.

　　First of all, I admit that the nesting doll theory is correct, that is, identity is not important, what is more important is the relationship R. But we have to consider a problem, this is in real life, real life, real life.

　　Whether it is the 3A masterpiece "Lord of the Mysteries" or "Origin of Fools", they are all set in the mysticism. Etheric body, psychic body, spiritual body and so on. That is to say, there is a soul that is a step further than the body and psychological memory. In this way, in the mysterious world, the theory of non-reductionists is true: an individual is an independent entity separated from his brain, body and experience.

　　"Whatever this self may be, it is something that thinks, deliberates, resolves, acts, and suffers. I am not thoughts, I am not actions, I am not feelings; I am something that thinks, acts, and suffers." No one should object to what Red said^_^

　　Therefore, everything about Klein is only a part of Zhou Mingrui's memory, a part of it. His essence and all his ways of thinking are still Zhou Mingrui. This can be seen from his attitude towards the Tarot Club and his attitude towards the lower classes of Loen.

　　I think Zhou Mingrui, whose soul traveled through time from the very beginning, is the real "me".

　　See? This is the real pretense, @The unlucky person who only has one colored contact lens

65L {Magic☆Girl☆Meilin☆Chan} 　

　　Does anyone remember what we were going to discuss at the beginning?

66L {Red Angel Hot Pot Chowder}

　　Who cares about the topic? Just have fun. This is not a debate competition. Isn't it normal for forums to go off topic?

67L {The Strongest Hunter, Big Girl}

　　Someone should have already known the single-player happy ending just posted in the next post, which is the true history of the mysterious main timeline that everyone has speculated.

　　The name of the ending is worth pondering [I have been dealing with myself for a long time, I would rather be myself]

　　I think the conclusion has been drawn.

　　Guidance:

68L {The True Lord of Mysteries}

　　I have been dealing with myself for a long time, and I prefer to be myself. I think this quote is very subtle. Who is this "I" that I am dealing with? Is it the divinity? Is it the Heavenly Lord? Is the Heavenly Lord the embodiment of the divinity or simply a possession? I really want the screenwriter to have a good talk about their ideas. This script is really worth savoring.

69L {Five-part nesting dolls}

　　I typed out the ending.

　　Yes, that's right, the single-player happy ending mentioned above was created by me. After playing it, I became more convinced of my idea that even in this mysterious world with souls, identity is not the most important thing. What is more important is the connection with the people and things you love, which is how he anchors himself.

　　It was the silver moon of Zhou Mingrui's hometown, the memories, and the nagging of his parents; it was the deep friendship he had with his team members during the Yangen era as Klein Moretti, and the captain's words and deeds: "We are guardians, but also a group of poor creatures who are always fighting against danger and madness." It was also the trusting feelings he had within the Tarot Club, even though they were full of flaws, when he was The Fool and The World...

　　As he said at the end ["Some things are always above others"]

　　He is Zhou Mingrui, he is Klein, he is a fool who does not belong to this era.

70L {A Life Disdained by the Gods}

　　cut

71L {Who owns Sefirah Castle today?}

　　I understand the reason, but it is not necessary.jpg

72L {The True Lord of Mysteries}

　　hehe

73L {I really don't believe in God}

　　Whatever you say is what it is.

----------Black Box---------

　　who I am?

　　...Klein?

　　Zhou Mingrui?

　　...

　　I am me

　　I am not Him

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References:

[1] Derek Parfit. Reason and Persons[M]. Shanghai: Shanghai Translation Publishing House, 2020.

[2] Liu Yetao, Wei Liangyu. Logical and philosophical interpretation of "The Ship of Theseus"[J]. Humanities Magazine, 2018(6): 33-41.

[3] Kuang Yu. The Problem of the Ship of Theseus: Identity, Recognition and the Collective Identity of Modern States [J]. Chinese and Foreign Culture and Literary Theory, 2014 (26): 44-60.

[4] Su Dechao. The Ship of Theseus and Identity across Time[J]. Journal of Shaanxi Normal University, 2017, 46(1): 17-25

　　Anyone guess why this forum looks so weird?

　　Here are some tips: 1> Pay attention to the ID; 2> This is a game.

　　[{桫欏_雙樹} friend guessed it! Congratulations! You can find it in the comments section~]

　　If there are any logical problems in the discussion of philosophy, please point them out below [after all, I don't study this major...]; at the same time, you are welcome to express your views on this issue in the comment section~

【Intermission】

　　This forum post is the most difficult one I have ever written, but it is also the one with the highest sense of achievement. In fact, the initial idea was to analyze Xiao Ke from different angles, and the inspiration came from the sentence "I have been dealing with myself for a long time, and I would rather be myself".

　　The idea is beautiful, but the reality is very bleak... I found out at the beginning that my understanding is very shallow, so I had to look for literature to study. "Reason and Man" is really a masterpiece, I praise it (but I don't recommend it). If there are many friends who are interested in this book, I will write a reading note?

　　The next forum article will be much easier and will continue the style of the first article!

Welcome to communicate, welcome to chat, welcome to follow.

[all克/Forum Body] Your game is really awesome, you can even use a mirror to attack

【all克/论坛体】你游真牛逼，tm镜子也能攻略

https://langdaoshijuan69972.lofter.com/post/318ad1ba_1cad5258c

Notes:

A quick typing with an explosive mentality, welcome to catch bugs.

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　　Weird Forum ----- Derivative Game Zone ----- Flooding Zone

　　【Anonymous version】

　　1L OP

　　RT, holy shit, I was so shocked when I played this ending, okay? ? ? The Guiyou planning team really found something wrong.

　　[picture]

　　Hahahaha, what the hell is this ending, haha, I can handle Arrodes whose tears turn into a river.

　　Thanks to the OP for providing the small mirror emoticon pack!

　　Although I already knew that the XP in Fool's Origin was very free, I never expected that we could even form a CP.

　　Is this Cthulhu? I love it.

　　This is the first time this ending cg appears in the forum. I have a feeling this post is going to be popular, so I'll take up space first.

　　None of you have any mercy on the host.

　　The OP is so miserable, I'll light a candle for you [perfunctorily]

　　And put a microphone in the host's mouth, the lighting engineer is in place! Please tell us your tragic story.

　　10L

　　Let's be happy [bushi]

　　11L OP

　　Your uncle...

　　12L

　　Hey, OP, please tell me, recently everyone is obsessed with progress, the forum is so boring [chin on hand]

　　I feel like I'm back to when the first chapter was just released [sad]

　　13L

　　At that time, not many people played it. After all, it was the first time that Squid Studio made a mobile game, and it was a strategy game. It was pretty good that it didn't get criticized.

　　14L

　　What, was the Fool so cold before? Newbies ask for scientific knowledge!

　　15L

　　Wait until the poster finishes telling his miserable experience before you say anything else, hahahaha.

　　16L OP

　　Satisfy your curiosity. Tsk... I started playing because my friend told me that this game has a lot of supplements and decryptions about the settings of "Secret World", so I played this strategy game. I didn't want to play any characters, and the official also said that there would be a personal ending, so I started to study the text and plot.

　　It was smooth at the beginning, I didn't use SL much, and basically went all the way to the seventh part without any damage. After I rejected Arrodes's request to follow, this ending suddenly jumped out? ? ?

　　Why???

　　17L

　　Watson, I've discovered a blind spot...

　　18L

　　Coincidentally, me too.

　　No, OP, why do you refuse the small mirror?

　　19L OP

　　Shouldn't you be cautious according to the conventional routine about a character who licks you crazily from the very beginning?

　　20L

　　No, it's... it's like this

　　But I lick you sincerely Orz

　　Little Mirror is known as the top dog, even the terrifying political commissar is inferior to him

　　21L

　　...Let me guess, OP, what did the little mirror choose for your birthday?

　　22L OP

　　It wasn't my birthday, and wasn't it meant to let my guard down?

　　23L

　　...Are you the legendary straight man?

　　24L

　　...If I were Xiao Jingzi, I would clench my fists when I heard this.

　　Blood pressure soars.jpg

　　25L OP

　　So it's really harmless?

　　[Frowning, realizing something is not right.jpg]

　　26L

　　Everyone is about to release the "Art of Licking the Dog" by Little Mirror, and you are still doubting it?

　　Don't you go to the forum?

　　27L OP

　　I don't go online often, for fear of spoilers.

　　28L

　　I see [lights a cigarette]

　　29L

　　Have you finished your serious discussion?

　　When it's over let me haha ...

　　30L

　　Hey, sympathize with the host.

　　Actually, I also hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

　　I've actually been professionally trained, and I really won't laugh unless something is very funny.

　　Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

　　31L

　　The noise from the people upstairs hurt my eyes

　　32L

　　Such an exciting post right from the start

　　33L

　　Draw a fanart for the host

　　[picture]

　　34L

　　Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha girl, you are amazing hahahahahahahahahahaha, another fan song and we'll be all done.

　　35L

　　The people above know a lot.

　　It is not impossible to arrange it.jpg

　　36L OP

　　...I really thank you

　　37L

　　You are welcome!

　　38L OP

　　Can't you see I'm being sarcastic?!

　　...

　　69L

　　Is the OP really pissed off?

　　Let's talk about something else. What did someone mean when they said that the first chapter was not popular before?

　　Isn't "Secret World" quite popular? As a spin-off game, "Fool's Origin" should be pretty good, right?

　　70L

　　I know this question!

　　The first reason is that the gaming groups are different. If it weren't for the fact that many of the puzzles in the Mysterious World were solved in The Fool, many people who play Mysterious would not come to play this game. And one is 2D and the other is 3D, and the art style screens out a group of people.

　　The second is the game positioning, strategy game, it sounds not serious [funny]

　　The third is that Squid Studios was not working in this direction before, so there is no proof that this game can be made well.

　　Of course, the squid is still you squid.

　　71L

　　Why did it become so popular? [Curious]

　　72L

　　Because of Old Neil's lunch box?

　　73L

　　How is that possible? I remember that the traffic in that area actually decreased, and everyone was cursing the official authorities on the official blog every day.

　　74L

　　It was the end of the first chapter... I remember the topic directly reached the top. That was the first time that The Fool broke the circle.

　　That battle was really portrayed in an exciting way, the dynamic CG was really amazing, and the ending really made me feel autistic.

　　team leader------

　　75L

　　Forum daily crying to the captain (1/1)

　　76L

　　You may not know what it means to be a god with only one plot. We usually only use two words to describe this kind of game: Blade Monster! I often say that when the Mysterious World was able to become a hot search, it is not a problem for me, the Fool, to set the whole Internet on fire with this battle.

　　An ambush for him, this painting cannot be released for now; there is no rush to render the emotions, the players will definitely cry; a counterattack gives him a bento, which is earth-shattering; CG, dubbing, music; this plot is awesome; pour a cup of tea for the players, and a cup of cappuccino for the audience!

　　Start your blow-up show.jpg

　　77L

　　Dedededede

　　Burn incense to Grandpa Lu.jpg

　　But it really exploded during that period. When I opened the forum the next day and saw the daily activity, I thought I had entered the next secret.

　　78L

　　I was tricked into this pit by that painting and music...

　　I didn't realize how cruel this plot was until I got into the game. When I killed the Fool, I was stunned, okay? ? ? I thought everyone on the Internet was joking about the protagonist's death, but the screen went black and then cut to the funeral after death. The perspective was all black and white. I was dumbfounded. I SL several times before I realized that this is a fixed plot and it can't be changed.

　　I almost thought that the next few chapters would be about a love story between a human and a ghost.

　　79L

　　As for me, when I saw Klein breaking out of the ground, I thought the official plan was to play Train to Busan.

　　Scary to death ==

　　80L

　　But to be honest, the music and text of the post-death plot are really awesome. I was a grown man crying in front of the screen late at night, and my roommate thought I had broken up with him.

　　Although I don't have a girlfriend.

　　81L

　　Love the person above 1s, who is not a noble single aristocrat?

　　82L

　　I played Mysterious World first and then Fool's Origins. Although that part scared me a bit, I wasn't that scared when I thought about the timeline more than ten years later.

　　But it was really hard to see the Moretti family, especially my sister. Well, it might be because she was my mentor in the secret world and helped me a lot, so at that time I really wanted to rush into the screen and tell her that your brother is an evil god with as many lives as a nine-tailed fox.

　　When I saw the Fool dressed up as a clown to make people laugh, I seemed to see the officials stabbing my heart with a knife, asking as they stabbed, "Does it hurt? Do you want to use the knife? Do you want to cry?"

　　It hurts, it hurts, it hurts, I'm crying, crying, I was wrong, isn't that enough? wuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwu.

　　83L

　　The friend above, you are also a student of Professor Moretti...

　　I think I guessed who you are.

　　However, when I saw my supervisor's appearance when she was young, and then imagined how she urged me to complete my thesis more than ten years later, my eyes drifted for a moment.

　　And why did the studio make it so realistic? The real game also urged me to ddl. I play games to escape reality. Why do they give me the same suffocating feeling? [Sa Beining breathes oxygen.jpg]

　　84L

　　Are there any interesting posts or fun things recently? I don't want to push the progress.

　　85L

　　Do you want to watch the debate? But I think it's quite boring.

　　86L

　　Let's go

　　87L

　　88L

　　You mean this? I can only say that people can do anything when they have free time...

　　89L

　　But have you come across those vending machines three times recently? The ones with blind boxes, and the drink names are exactly the same as the sequence names in our game. I thought they were official peripherals, but I didn't see any official comments on them.

　　90L

　　I have come across it too and was planning to buy it, but it disappeared in the blink of an eye.

　　The thought is terrifying

　　91L

　　I have a friend in the police station who told me it's best not to touch these weird things.

　　Recently, some messy organizations have been causing trouble.

　　92L

　　So, luckily I didn't buy it.

　　93L OP

　　...What are you discussing?

　　Never mind, it's not important, the official website just sent me an email.

　　They said that I got the be ending which is basically impossible to get [Uninterrupted Love]

　　So the game officials gave me an easter egg, Arrodes's triple Axel jump.

　　Thank you so much :)

　　94L

　　Hahahahahahaha Every time the OP appears, he can bring me new happiness.

　　Also, does Arrodes have legs to perform such complex figure skating tricks?

　　95L

　　OP, I have a friend who really wants to watch your video.

　　96L

　　Are you talking about yourself, my friend?

　　I am different, I am honest.

　　OP! I want to have a good rest, let me have a good rest!!!

　　97L OP

　　Here, here, let me show you what the official has done. I am convinced. I am really convinced.

　　The last time I saw an official who was so capable of causing trouble was during Nano Heart .

　　【Video.mp4】

　　98L

　　Cao Caozi, this model, I remember it is from the mysterious world.

　　Why do I not feel any discomfort when I see the long legs in the mirror spinning and jumping on the ice?

　　99L

　　Help me, how am I going to watch a figure skating competition in the future!!!

　　This scene is going to be engraved into my DNA, ah! Mai Ai Si——

　　100L

　　Don't just engrave everything into your DNA.

　　101L

　　I hate this ending, hahahahaha. Why are there words on the mirror? hahahaha

　　"Master, do you like this Arrodes?"

　　102L

　　@Original Poster

　　"Master, do you like this Arrodes?"

　　103L

　　@Original Poster

　　"Master, do you like this Arrodes?"

　　104L

　　@Original Poster

　　"Master, do you like this Arrodes?"

　　105L OP

　　...all of you get out of here.

　　106L

　　Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

　　107L

　　I give full marks to this trick hahahahahahahaha

　　108L

　　Friends in the ghost animal area, it's time to take action!

　　109L

　　Hurry up and go check out the previous post of rational discussion, someone has typed out a personal happy ending! ! ! !

　　Personally, I wish it was HE!!!

　　The most difficult line recognized by the whole forum! ! ! !

　　110L OP

　　Damn! I want to go see who the boss is.

　　111L

　　Go to this post, there is a CG picture at the end of this post

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Intermission:

Follow-up? Maybe...

Well, everyone should have guessed the world view.

It seems there is nothing more to say, is that it?

Welcome to communicate, welcome to chat, welcome to follow.

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